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themselves by blaming his wife the couple and two other individuals face numerous criminal charges related to an alleged years-long bribery scheme involving the governments of egypt and qatar. the new revelation comes after a federal judge granted nbc news is request to unseal two sentences in the filing about why senator menendez just believes that joint trial would hurt his chances at trial. the filing states that if asked to testify, the center of quote, may in coal pate unquote his wife, meaning he may accuse her. the reason he says is because she quote, withheld information from senator menendez or otherwise led him to believe that nothing unlawful was taking place. and quote, he also says that if there is a joint trial and he chooses not to testify against his wife that would force him to hold back testimony that would exonerate him. now, the senator has denied wrongdoing, pled not guilty to all charges. the trial is scheduled to begin. now next month, the news continues right here on cnn
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>> bought next breaking news seven jurors just tie it for trump's hush money trial. the case suddenly picking up speed and fast as trump gets scolded by the judge for intimidating a juror e court sk artist who s with tru old de is oufro campai trail in a big way, slamming trump's cotroom came as are harry ente breaks down the numbers showing where bide gaining grod tonight. and this may surprise as you and payback cnn learning isra is now consering a strike inside iran us ambassador to the united nations, linda thomas-greenfield respon go out front and good ening. i'm erin burnett outfront tonight, fast and furious. the first seven jurors who will be deciding trump's fade have now been sworn in for trump's new york criminal trial. there were zero jurors thisning seven tonight.hat is zero to seven i meanthe case is accelerating fast.ury selection is now more than a third done, and the judge in
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the case told those who have been sworn in to be ready to go on monday. >> now, excuse me. that is week sooner than most experts had expected. so le's just go through what we know now about the first juror seated for trump's historic trial. the first juror will be the foreperson. he's originally from ireland, reads the new york times, the daily mail watches fox and msnbc the second juror is a woman, an oncology nurse, reads the new york times and watches cnn the third juror is a corporate lawyer, originally from oregon he is not married and has no children. he gets his news from the new york times, the wall street journal, and google the fourth juror is identified as a puerto rican man with an it business, and he told the court that trump quote, makes things interesting. it says he has no strong feelings about politics. the fifth juror is a black woman who was an english teacher. she told the court she is not a political person and really doesn't care for the news and the sixth is a software engineer who recently graduated college. she said she gets her news from the new york
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times, google, facebook, and tiktok. and number seven, a lawyer originally from north carolina who told the judge he has quote, political views as to the trump's presidency and thinks that there were policies he disagreed with now, this is the seven we've got. this is what both sides with everything have agreed to. so that gives you a portrait of who's in that room when these jurors walked to the jury box, some did appear under stress. juror three, biting his lipped are six kept her eyes on the ground trump did react during the der are questioning. we understand from our reporting in the room, the judge actually raised his voice after he heard trump monitoring and the judge said, merchan, i won't tolerate that. i will not have any jurors intimidated in this courtroom. i just moments ago, trump left. he spoke out to the cameras and lashed out at the judge we are going to continue our fight against this, judge. we think he's totally conflicted. he's are conflicted judge. and two over an appeal >> now, in a moment, i'm going
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to speak to the sketch artist who was in that courtroom next to trump all day. and first i want to begin though with bridge and grass, who is out front at live outside the courthouse we're in the jury selection today. i mean, after yesterday, i actually know when was it? two 30 this afternoon, nerve 3:00 someone told me they've gotten nobody still don't have a single juror and then all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom and we've got seven. yeah. i mean what's next and what does this mean for the trial timeline >> yeah. erin, i mean, you make a good point. i think people were really concerned. how do you actually see it? a jury forage? trial, just like this, but it did accelerate quite quickly in the late afternoon today. so essentially right now, where we stand like you just laid out those seven people who are anonymous to the public public only those minor details. and they were told by the judge to not consume any news, to not talk to anybody and to report back for monday. that is when they hope to have opening statements for this
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trial. now, that schedule could change just a little bit and that judge did give a bit of a caveat, but where it stands right now, remember both both sides, the prosecution and the defense, they get ten strikes when it comes to these jurors, will both sides have used six, so they're four strikes remains. so get those five jurors left in the 12th panel. and then of course, there also needs to be alternatives is not clear yet, just how many alternates the judge wants for this trial, but it was really interesting to see into here about these ajour are rather the defense and the prosecution using these strikes, there were jurors that were called back in and it was very clear for that trump's defense team had gone through their social media challenging some of the posts that they were have. they had essentially saying that they can't be impartial shaw and unbiased as they had promised in that courtroom, for example, one person said that they had a facebook post that said that lock him up and he was dismissed just to by the judge for cause, another person had
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husbands posts that were a little bit controversial. the judge said that person could be allowed to be on in this trial, but they did. that is not the case. so anyway, there were some really interesting moments as they ticked through these different people trying to figure out who could actually serve on this jury and be impartial and be fair for a defendant like donald trump era is really fast that he just the details right. and then how it works, just individual people walking in and all of this see the scouring of the social media. >> all right. >> brian, thank you so much. outside the courthouse. and i want to go now as promised to christine cornell's, she was in the courtroom today. the official sketch artist today, in addition to this trump trial, christina's sketch, many high-profile criminal trials. so she's used to seeing these moments. i'll chatbot the mexican drug lord mobster john gotti bill cosby, jeffrey epstein, burning, made off. wow. you have seen it all and you were there today and i know this was a momentous day. do you a part of history and in fact, i mentioned all those individuals that you've drawn,
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but you've drawn trump for decades back to an antitrust suit decades ago. so you've seen this man a change and morph and age in so many different ways >> what did you think today >> he sees gotten a bit older >> no, i've been drawing >> him now for months >> right. but i did draw him when he was a young man. he's always kind of startling because of his height. be really is a big guy and also the kind of impassive mask that he wears you know, he's really he's very designed very purposeful. yes, his those eyebrows, you know, which are they? they wear him >> and you do draw them with such distinction. you, they really stand out and how you draw him. >> i want to >> show one of your sketches say, we're going through some of them, but this one, it appears in this one that his eyes are closed. what was happening here?
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>> my apologies, ma'am. i was sitting 50 feet away. i was having such a struggle to try and get those eyeballs in >> it >> was just not the best advantage you know, point to say, yeah. yeah. i mean, later in the day he was more co-operative and he turned a couple of times and knowing that there was someone there in a sense, right >> did he could >> turn to your vantage point and see, you know, he wasn't doing anything for me. he was just talking to his attorney was sitting right there on his on his right. all right. and that hidden binoculars on. so any look that he gives it all is going good. i'm going to grab it. yeah. all right. so could you tell what was happening in that moment or no, that's just what just stood out to you. just let me was talking to his lawyers about various jurors and what he thought of them this was this was what was unique about this jury. was that first day they called, i think 96 people and i think 50 people raise their hand when the judge said raise your hand, if you can't be fair
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and then today there was a whole little train of the trailing in saying, oh, judge, i slept on it. >> i can't be fair >> that's what you saw today. >> even more, we're dropping like flies so this is a unique situation. usually people have all these other excuses. my vacation, my child, my job, is that not in this case, but interesting what you say coming in, i slept on it. >> how did they >> react the jurors that you saw when they the ones and i was just going through some of the basics that we know about them. biograph football >> but when you saw their faces, when >> they realized they had been chosen, well, they had to walk right past me, which was really quite fascinating. so i got the whole down the runway look and you know, that was the first guy number one, and he was all he was almost militaristic. >> this is the foreperson, the man ireland, real military presence about him there was a an asian man
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>> and i remember he was he was quite intense. everybody felt like they looked as if they'd been hit by a ton of bricks when they heard the news that they were actually chosen. one woman went scurrying by and she was smiling so she seemed happy. she was happy >> yeah. interesting. all right. so let's show another one of your sketches. oh, yeah, older man, the one who said that he found trump interesting? yes. >> i was older. yeah. he was an older guy. i couldn't get over him listening to him say, okay, you've got to stop using that word. interesting, because it really means something else. but anyway, he got selected and i thought, well, we actually have a jury of his peers. this is a guy who's probably close to trump's age. >> the end there was close to trump's age. so you'd see, you saw diversity in age. most and it sounds like the young ones mostly young, mostly. okay? all right. so what from what you could tell trump's reaction as as these i mean, i talked about a moment where he was muttering my understanding is that particular jordan end up for whatever reason whether it was struck are not on the
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jury that but what was trump's reaction? could you tell to anyone who chosen? no, i really could not. >> you couldn't because i'm 50 feet >> away sitting smack dab behind his. >> were there other moments that stood out to you when he did turn and you're looking through your binoculars? i loved it. i loved it when the judge reprimanded him for muttering because that was the woman who had videotaped celebrations when he hadn't won the election, right? but biden celebrations in new york city right? >> and >> he was beside himself with that piece of information. and the judge scolded him, which i thought was great and it was clear he was he was angry at me. yeah. i need tilt his head back and yemeni had to agree tilted. he said i can shut his eyes. when the judge said that. >> oh, really? he two. okay. >> and from his >> interactions with his lawyers, could you tell anything else about i don't know his demeanor or his feeling or his emotion in those interactions. >> now you're making me wish i was in the overflow room >> they have zoomed in on his
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face, rayyan him, yes. >> but it's different in this case, you are because you're in the room, you have the vibe, you have the electricity. i was actually to get the feeling for the people, you know, because they really do come from all walks of life and it's kind of shocking to see them coming in and you know, and you think i wonder what trump would think of this one or that one or this one you know, none of them. i don't think are kind of like the his standard of caliber of what he really admired didn't human beings, which is extremely shallow quality. >> so let me ask you one more thing, because i said you have done a sketched him over many years, right? l. chatbot, john gadi, bill cosby, jeffrey epstein, bernie madoff. you have been in the room with the most notorious defendants, some of the most notorious in new york history. how did this moment compare >> you know, there's a bottom line thing. it's just another human being. he's just a guy in a pinch >> you know? >> and you're there to capture the humanity. >> absolutely. >> and you want to >> see it be a fair trial absolutely >> all right. what christine,
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thank you very much. it's really fascinating and thank you for sharing that. as i say, you become the eye for all of us of history when you are in that courtroom drawing. so thank you. >> my pleasure. >> and i want to get to all of our experts here with me and just a moment to talk more about all of these details at christine just shared. i want to begin with robert hirshhorn, jury consultant, four decades of experience. welcome back, robert. i know you've got the william kennedy smith rape trial. george zimmerman trial in your history of what you've been a part of what do you make of what christine is describing about some of these additional details she shared about these jurors and their reactions the foreperson, she described as almost militant in when he walked by the man originally from ireland. she described an older gentlemen, a trump peer in terms of age, and a woman who was smiling and seem very happy to be on the jury. what do you take away from what you just heard? >> yeah. it's a it's a mixed group. this is exactly what you want. it's you've got people
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from different walks of life. you can see that i'm wearing my fishing tie today. and the reason i'm wearing it is because the former president called themselves some pretty good jurors today, we've got seven. you've got two of them that are lawyers >> the end what this sketcher was telling us is that these jurors are reacting naturally. it's not just that it's a criminal case is not just that it's a high-profile case it's a criminal case that's high-profile involving most popular person popular, the most well-known person in the world by the name of donald j. trump. >> and so some >> jurors are going to be happy about it. some are going to be frightened about it, some are going to just do their job because the, the key thing that the sketch artist said, aaron, when you strip it all away donald j. trump is just another person that's on trial and i'm telling you this jury is going to give the man a fair trial. >> yeah. i mean, it is fasting what she said right. is the humanity when you think about all the people she's been in the room, it's strips you down to that that you are a human,
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as i think christine put it in a pinch >> she >> also was talking about the juror that i mentioned, juror number for puerto rican man with an it business who tells the court trump quote, makes things interesting. the way christine described it was that that he said that word a few times and it appeared clear that that word may mean something it was unclear. what do you take away from that? and the fact that that individual has been chosen to be on the jury to me >> are you asking me? >> yes. yes. yes? >> yeah interesting is the >> perfect word that team trump wants to hear. it can be interpreted all sorts of different ways. i don't think it's a dog whistle for anything. look, i liked the guy. he's just being real and honest and that's what you want from the jurors. he's expressing on the outside what he's thinking on the inside. and that's all we can ask are the people that we are that we
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summons and send down the courtrooms all across america to serve as jurors. so kudos for him, for being for being so straighten, honest. >> all right. so robert, stay with me. i'm a paul martin it is with me as well. i mean, we're rocha as well. okay. so paulou yo've tried hundreds of criminal trials. her ing that stood out to me froma many peoples xi said i don't forgot what words you use, but i thk it was like rt of drped in front of the judge to say i slept on it and i decided i can't be unbiased more than half had raisetheir hands yesterday, but what do you make of the fact that people slept on it a came in and did that. >> what i found was in manhattan. you areoing to find jurors out some of the most educated and pathetic knowledgeable individuals that's great. that's what you want on the jury. you're >> also going to have a bunch of crack >> pots as a defense attorney, our new yorkers, we all know i want a little bit of both. as i definitely want some crackpot because you only takes one one juror does flip the whole button, doesn't. so i think i've respect the fact that
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they that they came back and they said that they couldn't sit, but it's the ones that were chosen that i thought were interesting. >> what stood out to you from what we found out today and also what christine was just sharing the additional details about some of them are reactions to being chosen very, very serious, but certainly in one case quite happy. >> yeah. i mean, look, i think even just since yesterday, this is such a different conversation. i mean, first of all, we have 707 and one hour or something like yesterday, i think people were oh god, this is going to take three or four weeks and some of us said no, they'll get into a rhythm, the pace we'll pick up. and it did. so i think just that we just have take a moment and step back and say, the process is going forward. it's working the way it works in the hundreds of trials that you've done and the hundreds that i've done or seen and you know, it's it's it's remarkable how normally it is. yeah, in
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this situation. and i think that's worth just saying the criminal justice process, the jury system is working the way it's supposed to apologize, anything stand out to you about when trump was reprimanded by the judge? for muttering and the wake christine described as it was very clear, trump was angry about this juror who had posted a video of people celebrating in new york when biden won and the judge admonished him, she christine described his reaction is because he had to accept it, but he leaned back and shut his eyes. >> it's not going to be the first time it's not going to be the last. this is who is we should be all be prepared that he's going to act as trump. the question becomes, is he going to do this in front of the jury? and what ramifications is that going to make for the judge? because some point in time he's going to push them to a corner where the judge has got to do something serious. >> right. and they're all going to be sitting there now in judgment literally of that. >> robert, may i >> ask you from zero this afternoon, as i said, we had no we had no jurors and then in an hour an hour and a half, suddenly we had seven jurors.
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>> do >> youth and they were told to show up on monday today as if opening arguments are going to begin, then we don't know exactly how many alternate, you know, you've got to get to 12 and then some number of alternatives, possibly up to 18. no selection tomorrow. do you think this is done by friday? >> i think there's a good chance here to thing we went from glacial speed to the speed of light and the other point i want to make aaron is that if president trump are former president trump were smart, i know he's talking to the vase, what he makes his comments before and after court but are you ought to be talking up, the jury ought to be talking about what great jurors we have. and i appreciate everybody being honest and we just want more jurors to be honest because all i want is a fair trial. stop dumping on the judge. stop whining all the time and just time to talk up the jury, that would be a smart thing for him to do at this point, you're right. >> they had because they are hurt me, me going to make the decision. one other juror the moment i mentioned who teaches english public school charter system. she told the court that there's a person of color she has friends who have strong opinions on trump. she
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personally is not political. she doesn't care for the news. she was the only of the 18 questioned this morning who said she was not aware that trump is facing other criminal charges. in other criminal cases. so mar-a-lago, january 6 what do you think that means for trump? >> i think that just makes her, frankly, a good der it may not make it may surprise some of us who consume new and information on a daily basis at exhaustion, but i think it makes her good der frankly, for both sides, she sounds like as much of a clean slate basically as they're going to get in a case like this sounds like she's being quite straightforward about and probably just doesn't do a lot of social media. maybe reads only certain aspects of the news maybe go to the sports section or who knows. and so i think really that she's a good durer for both sides, which is again, how
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the jury system works. both sides are going to eliminate or strike the extremes, and we're all humans, so every person comes in, they're with their individual foibles, and that's the reality of the humanity of it all. >> all right, thank you all very much. and we do have major developments tonight in another case that could affect trump and the charges he's facing, the supreme court in session today hearing whether process in a case here whether prosecutors went too far in charges against the january 6 insurrection, is this could have huge implications for jack smith plus us ambassador sir to the united nations. linda thomas-greenfield at the dmz. today, with a big offer for kim jong un. we're going to tell you exactly what it is, why it matters. she's out front marjorie taylor greene says she does have the votes to oust speaker mike johnson. another major republican joining her fight today >> tre a others behind massie as well >> of course, >> i'll never speak for them. say their name
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case against >> donald trump. at issue is a federal obstruction law which has been used to charge a of people accused of taking part in the january 6 riot on capitol hill. including a former police officer who is challenging the use of this statute >> it is a law that is >> also central to two charges in the doj case versus trump. so that is at stake. so the doj repeatedly was asked by the justices to try to defend why their interpretation of the law was not an overreach >> would a heckler in today's audience qualify or at the state of the union address, would pulling a fire alarm before a vote qualify for 20 years in federal prison. >> you just give us a little bit more as to why we shouldn't think of it as being a narrower set of circumstances to which this text relates
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>> obviously taking from perceive, you have got to justice left-leaning and right-leaning skepticism share ryan goodman are outfront legal analysts is with me now and ryan, you obviously say that that line of questioning from judge tanya brown jackson is very significant, right? this isn't just the left-right split. this appears to be skepticism that we saw on both sides. >> that's where it happens. oftentimes when we're talking about defendant's rights at it cuts across ideological boundaries in that the justices and they expressed it today as we just saw, are concerned that the law may have been interpreted to broadly and that they want to interpret the law if there's ambiguity in favor of a defendant, there's even a canon of construction the way you're supposed to interpret certain laws is in favor of the defendant. if there's that kind of ambiguity and they both were pressing on that issue. all right. so here's the thing half of jack charges against trump in the election interference case use the same statute. if it gets struck down here, not only does have huge implications for the defendants in the january 6, you a hundreds of people have been charged some have said this
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could be disastrous for jack smith when it comes to trump himself. what do you say? >> so do think it will be very significant for the department of justice because out of the nearly 1,400 people who have been charged for january 6 a full quarter have been charged for this particular offense, 350 just over three and 50. so that's a huge number that stands that are at stake for what the supreme court rules i don't think so when it comes to donald trump's case for a couple of reasons first, what's really at issue at the supreme court today is whether or not this statute is only about obstruction of records and documents. and mr. fisher, for example, is not charged with that. he's charged with running into the capitol and interpreting what the right exactly seating so what has trumping charged with documents and records it's the full certification by the false electors, and then they're submitting that to gum up the works of the congressional proceeding. and in fact, a couple of hypotheticals today we're about well, what if it's about the certificates and the answer for fissures. fissures lawyers. oh, that's actually a classic case, but
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not always well, that might actually mean that that's the case. that would be applied to trump. there's the allegations but this is not a direct precedent setting ruling. if they go against it for trump in the doj cases, what you're saying on the face of it? >> that is correct. just now depends on how they write their opinion because they could still write it more broadly if they wanted to the, second is that the indictment by jack smith is very clever. and some people will not like to hear this in a certain way in terms of how clever it is. it has all of the allegations of facts. and then at the end it says, okay, here are the three charges so you can knock out one of the charges. it's in the alternative. the facts still come in for the other two charges. so maybe they don't have obstruction, but then they have one or the other two like conspiracy to defraud the united states is one of the other two. they'll just say, okay, all of those charges still a plot that charge still a post, all the same facts. >> all right. well, thank you very much. ryan goodman. next, president biden, tearing into trump while trump's sits in a courtroom >> look at the economy. i don't see it through the eyes of mar-a-lago i see through the
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another day in new york city. courtroom biden embarked on a three-day swing through battleground, pennsylvania with a pitch on tax fairness. >> no >> billionaire should pay a lower tax rate than a teacher a nerve sanitation where the president took aim at trump's plans to extend republicans 2017 tax cuts, which expire next year. biden is vowing to raise taxes on the wealthy and corporations while promising no tax hike as for those making less than $400,000, trickle-down economics failed to middle-class. it failed america. the truth is donald trump and bodies that failure he wants to double down on trickle-down >> meanwhile, trump issues own warning against biden would have joe biden gets his way. you will soon be facing colossal tax hikes, the likes of which no one has ever seen before. >> at times, biden openly mocked his predecessor just the other day, a defeated-looking guy came up to me and asked if i could help he was drowning in
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debt i said i'm sorry, donald, but i can't help you >> and jabbed at trump's stock markets, stumbles. >> if trump stock, in truth, social his company drops in lower you might do better on my tax plan and it is the president made his case near his childhood home in scranton while the campaign used a new >> digital video to play up his local ties grant and is a set of values. we pride ourselves on the importance of family and honesty and hard work. >> the president also is facing a close contest against trump in pennsylvania, were 19 electoral votes are up for grabs in a state critical to maintaining the democrats so-called blue wall biden this week is trying to shore up support in key areas he want like here or lack of wanna county home to scranton, but surrounded by counties that went for trump in 2020 the on
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november biden warned voters of what could come in a second trump term is common for your money, your health care, and your social security am are not going to let it happen now how did the trip president biden sought to draw another contrast with trump by releasing his >> 2023 tax returns prince something trump did not voluntarily do while he was president. the president will continue his campaign, swing tomorrow with a stop speaking to steel workers in the pittsburgh area and he'll wrap up the threat three-day trip in philadelphia on thursday. aaron arlette. thank you very much. in scranton. and i want to go now to harry enten. let's go beyond the numbers. so harry are let's talking about the tight rais and pennsylvania. >> you have >> noticed one particular group that stands out in that states, yeah, you know, if you look at the great lakes battleground states what stands out about them? m versus let's say the sun belt battleground states is that white voters make up not just the majority of voters, but the vast majority of voters, 80% north in the state
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of pennsylvania, the commonwealth of pennsylvania. and if you look among white voters, the trend line that you're seeing there is like donald trump is still winning amongst them. he won them by 12 percentage points back in 2020. but in 2024, that margin has been cut in half. it's not just a six point advantage for donald trump in the state of pennsylvania among white voters. and this is a big reason why joe biden is so competitive and pennsylvania, while it's falling behind in other battleground states like arizona and georgia and pennsylvania, white voters make up the lion's share of the voters. and joe biden's doing significantly better amongst them. then he did four years, which is fascinating because this is not a story line people may expect. >> yes, >> you talk about biden, you talk about oh, people think the democrats and you're going to have, it's about diversity in the base. so that is a fascinating point you say about white voters, but it's not all you're noticing. where else are you seeing gains that may surprise people for biden? yeah. >> if we've been talking about nationally that joe biden has been struggling among voters of color, hispanic anna voters in particular. and you look at the aggregate of paul's, what we're seeing there as we are seeing gains for joe biden. so if you go back to february, trump was
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actually leading. it's amongst hispanic voters by a point now, joe biden's ahead, he's only ahead by nine points. that's significantly worse than he did back in 2020. but the fact is joe biden is getting among hispanic voters and that is a big reason why, and the average of national polls, donald trump was ahead two months ago. and now we're looking at a tight race nationally >> and the things we just heard, arlette highlighting when biden saying go for your social security and health care and it's part of a push biden has been making towards a middle-class voters that he thinks will work. is it? >> no, i don't, at least not at this particular point, if you ask voters who they think is better to represent the middle-class, you go back to 2020 joe biden, lead on that metric against donald trump. i are pretty clear margin. it was seven points back in 2020. a look at the polling. now, look at the 2024 pauling, who is better for the middle-class. donald trump leads by nine in percentage points. this to me more than anything else sort of encapsulates the problem that joe biden is facing. a lot of voters are looking back on the economy back during the trump administration. that's it. that's a 16-point sway. that is 60 clear, right? yeah. that
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is a very 16 point swing. it's a very large swing. it's one of the largest swings that we've seen across the polling, dan, i think is a big reason why donald trump at this point is a much better possession that he was in the 2020 polin. >> all right. harry, thank you very much. and there's important information, so let's bring in former executive director of the new york state democratic party, basil smile. so let's just start where harry finished >> there. they're >> positives and let's start on that middle-class issue. biden's obviously focusing in on that. that's clear. the point that the swing though that we've seen thus far 16 points away from biden among the middle-class that's a pretty stunning thing, is that is that something you can turn around enough? >> i think so. you're starting to see as numbers get better in a lot of different places. and i do think that these numbers have turned around but going back to the state of the union, he talked about these very issues focusing on a middle-class tax breaks, but also taxing the wealthy. he's talked about assistance for homebuyers when in states, particularly states like new york, you have governors talking about how to encourage more afforded building of
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affordable housing. so all of these pieces that help not just sustain a middle-class, but i also want to talk about what brings people into the middle-class love the fact that he's going to talk to steel workers because organized labor has historically been a huge vehicle to get people into the middle-class. a lot of republicans over the years have tried to decimate the support of unions and their power. and joe biden is lean into that, trying to bring, make sure that they're part of the democratic coalition because they have directly, not just in terms of wages, but also even in terms of housing, been able to support middle-class voters. >> and in terms of the gains among hispanic voters, now, obviously, as harry points out, so there's been a shift but it's been a shift from biden really. biden really going to a bad place, but now starting to come back. >> yeah. >> how much can that continue? this is that trump was up a point and now biden's up nine, but biden still way below where he was in the last election is that something that he can really move now tied is that to the border?
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>> you know, it's interesting because i do feel that there have been voters and we've seen this in some of the polls here and there, that there are real concerns about if you're, if all the support for recent migrants and a lot of older migrants saying, well, what about us and even african american voters saying the same thing? but what biden has done is turn and lean into those voters. and that i think matters, showing up matters, and what i call just use a sports reference small ball going into the smaller retail politics, not just the big rallies. and i think going to talk to those voters where they are, you know, you get that heuristic. does he care about people like me? and i think more and more voters are able to say that when you marry that too, i think all of these other hot-button issues like reproductive rights and so on. then i see that's where you see that movement >> basil, thank you very much. next, breaking news, united states, announcing new sanctions are right now against iran after the unprimed president and attack against israel, the us ambassador to the united nations, linda thomas-greenfield is out front and marjorie taylor greene telling cnn the momentum is on
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>> breaking news, the us tonight announcing it will impose new sanctions on iran for the attack at launched on israel over the weekend using more than 300 missiles and drones. it comes to cnn is learning, israel is weighing whether to launch what is being described as an attack inside iran that's according to us intelligence details at this hour though, are sparse. a senior biden administration officials, his quote, we would hope that the israelis would give us some morning any additional move now opens up a series of other possibilities, some of which are quite frightening. upfront now the us ambassador to the united nations, linda thomas-greenfiel d, and she joins me now tonight for this morning in her case from seoul, south korea, where she has just returned from the dmz are rare visit for a us official to obviously one of the world's most heavily armed borders between north and south korea ambassador greenfield, i want to ask you some crucial questions about that in a
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moment. first though, israel's response to iran is expected at any time. and one possibility i mentioned is a strike being described as a limited strike, unclear what that means, but on iranian soil does the united states support israel striking inside iran like i can't comment on >> what israel's plans are i will say aaron, that we have been in close contact with the israelis we are encouraging de-escalation, but we absolutely support israel's right to defend itself from this brutal attack on his own territory that we all witnessed at over the weekend >> we are just leaing just ments ago. that the us will impose sanctions oiran ithe cong days. ulear exactly what those are, buwe do understand ambassador orhe statpartment says that it
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has en days since us and anctually community kate, id and no engagement i expectedhen thiranian this wee i will beat t un. minister on this program on thursday. ambassaddo y have a message for him? >> like he knows what our messages are. we gave him a very strong message in the security council on sunday. we condemn there are horrific attack on israel and we made very, very clear that what they were doing went against all of the security council resolutions in terms of they're using the types of missiles that they were they were using. so i don't have a direct message from him that he has not already heard from the us government >> and as i mentioned, you went to the dmz today in korea. i want to play part of what you
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said there are some very important words here >> we have held the doors open for meaningful diplomacy and we remain open to dialogue. real productive dialogue without preconditions >> some of your works there. so crucial ambassador, meaningful diplomacy without preconditions and you emphasized those words. and it brought to mind for me the last time the us and north korea met that of course was the summit in 2018 between then-president trump and kim jong un and singapore >> at when you say >> dialogue and no preconditions is president biden open to meeting with kim absolutely. >> we have been clear since the biden administration came on board that we are prepared to have an open dialogue with the north koreans without preconditions we want to pursue
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diplomacy i visited the room in on the border at the dmz. i saw the table with the flags on the table, the chairs empty the table empty. they all they have to do is walk through the door. there's a door on their sayyed in that room where they can walk through that door and start those negotiations. they may start at a level the militaries that are on the ground there, but we're willing to do that at every single level to get to a place where we can find a path two peace and to really address the issues that the people of of a republic of korea have with the constant attacks, the constant missile tests near their border >> and just to be clear, when i says president biden open to mediated kim with kim, you started your answer with absolutely. then you went into the details there about that a table and i've been there in that table. it is poignant.
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it's the seats that are empty. but when you say every single level, i just want to be clear that president biden would be open to meeting with kim i'm not going to speculate when and if president biden will have a meeting with >> kim before any meeting like that could happen. we have to have engagements at other levels. >> and your visit comes just after north korea claimed to have successfully launched a new hypersonic missile obviously, their tests and their arsenal now are i've central focus. the world has just changed with iran launching a massive direct attack on israeli soil with missiles >> does the united >> states at this point, ambassador have a full picture of the reality of north korea's arsenal we certainly have a good picture. i don't know if we have a full picture. we were very disappointed when the russians vetoed the 17-18
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panel of experts resolution that allows for reporting on their capabilities. and we will look for other ways to continue that reporting. but they continue over and over to break numerous security council resolutions that they are not being healthfully accountable for because the russians and the chinese provide cover for them in the security council, ambassador thomas-greenfield, i really appreciate your time. thank you >> thank you very much. >> next, the house speaker, mike johnson now facing a bigger threat to his job tonight will tell you here you can expect to find crystal clear audio >> expensive display space and, more comfort for everyone. but we still left room for all the
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johnson, republican congressman thomas massie today publicly backing marjorie taylor greene's crusade to remove johnson brandon massie say there are more republicans who have not yet publicly come forward yet who will vote with them to oust johnson >> there are others behind to massie as well that of course, i'll never speak for them, say their name i think last time it was an extremely difficult process it through everybody into chaos for three-and-a-half week is weeks and it really broke our conference we never really recovered from that. this time it doesn't need to be that way. so i'm being responsible with this decision and allowing people to come to terms and think about who would be the next speaker >> melanie zanona is out front live on capitol hill, so melanie, you've been doing so much reporting on this, talking to all the people at the center of it. how much jeopardy is speaker johnson actually in right now? >> well, speaker mike johnson finds himself in a very precarious position right now.
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and that is because of this simple math after friday, which is when republican congressman white gallagher planning, to resign early johnson can only afford to lose one republican on any party-line vote. so what that means is that if this motion to vacate comes to the floor and both groups been and massey supported as they've said, they would that means johnson is certainly going to have to rely on democrats to bail him out. johnson though, has been defiant even as he recognizes the embattled role that he finds himself in. take a listen >> i am not resigning, and it is it is in my view and absurd notion that someone would bring a vacate motion when we are simply here trying to do our jobs. it is not helpful to the cause. it is not helpful to the country. >> we need steady leadership, we need steady hands of the wheel. look, i regard myself as a war time speaker >> now, greene has not committed to a timeline to forcing a vote on a motion to vacate and part of the reason for that is because she says she wants to give republican since time to find a potential
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successor so they can avoid the same embarrassing speaker drama that we saw an october. but as of this point, we have not seen any evidence that anyone's coalescence thing behind a potential successor which could work to johnson's advantage and meanwhile, some democrats are signaling that they might be willing to step in and help save johnson. but other republic, other democrats because we have so far been keeping their powder dry with house minority leader hakeem jeffries saying they need to see the details of johnson's foreign aid plan before they make any commitments about that, they're going to bat the speaker. but a really remarkable position that democrats now for the second time this congress could control the fate of the republican speaker, erin, i mean, it is absolutely incredible as you say, not fully tipping their hand and he would need them to survive. so ironic, a guy who has refused to give them their ukraine bill up to now, maybe someone they choose to save because they might get, i mean wow, the machinations. thank you so much. melanie zanona. thanks for joining us. the lead starts now >> welcome to the lead on jake